Saturday 24 May 2014

Error at the edge of the pit

John Shore

Is Every Christian Who's Against Gay Marriage Necessarily a Bigot? 

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According to this author YES



He Writes:
Pertinent question number 1: 
When does the anti-gay Christian become irrefutably a bigot?
Answer: 
The moment he or she does anything to restrict the rights of any other person based solely upon the fact that that person is gay. You, anti-gay Christian, have the God-given freedom and the American right to believe whatever you want, and to worship and congregate with anyone and everyone who shares your beliefs. What sane person would argue against that? For all practical purposes (and for such concerns, what else matters?) it is not beliefs that make a bigot. It's actions. If you vote against gay marriage or gay rights, you are a bigot.  
{According to the author John Shore's of this article see link above full story}
He Writes:
Pertinent question number 2: Does the Bible say that being gay is a sin?
Answer: 
No, it doesn't. {According to the author John Shore's of this article see link above full story}
4CM Editors opinion
Clearly the ref point for such opinions by John Shore can not be derived from the new and old testament.

Re Question 2:
God said it is a SIN. why argue with God. 
Refer:
Romans 1:20-32 NIV: For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people-none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (NLT)
1 Timothy 1:8-10
Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine ... (ESV)
Jude 7
And don't forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality and every kind of sexual perversion. Those cities were destroyed by fire and serve as a warning of the eternal fire of God's judgment. (NIV)
Leviticus 18:22
"Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin." (NLT)
Leviticus 20:13
"If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense." (NLT)
Re Question 1:
Also concerning being a Bigot:
If I used the authors logic then God's a Bigot. . ie. Thou shalt not 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10.
Sorry I don't buy his reasoning to define Bigot either; John Shore's logic Makes God the biggest Bigot of all.
Im sure God's not buying John Shore's argument here on Earth let alone when he stands before Him on that DAY!

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